Politics & Religion at the Pub!

Wednesday, 11th March found Third Space meeting at Designate@thegate in Matlock. Andy Botham came along to talk about his work as a Derbyshire County Councillor, and Cabinet member for Council Services. He explained how policies are debated at various stages and how decisions are then taken. With central government cutting funding to Derbyshire by £157 million, Andy stressed how difficult it is to implement cuts to services which impact so heavily on people’s lives. He told us that he found making cuts  very difficult because he had entered politics because he felt so strongly about fairness.

Andy is the Labour candidate for Derbyshire Dales in the May 2015 General Election. He spoke about how difficult it is to get into politics if one doesn’t have the “right” appearance, or doesn’t stick rigidly to the party line.

Several people in the group were very critical of politicians for not being willing to give straight answers to questions. He believes that politicians should be honest, real and straight talking. But stressed that it leads to hostile headlines in the media.

Third Space members were critical of “professional politicians” , who come straight from “Oxbridge” to work in parliament,  becoming  researchers, and then advisers to M.P’s, they are then selected as candidates for safe parliamentary seats so they have a smooth transition to becoming  M.P’s.

In contrast Andy along with several Third Space members said how much they admired Margaret Hodge, Chair of the Public Accounts Committee, when she interrogates the rich and powerful about tax avoidance. All credit to her, she most definitely speaks for me!

Andy would like more people both to register to vote, and to vote  – particularly young people. He said it was really important to “constantly encourage more and more people to be involved in the political process”.

Asked by one Third Space member how we could pray for him, Andy asked us to pray for “fairness”.

A most interesting, informative and insightful evening closed as our speaker thanked the group for inviting him, and commented that ” it was a pleasure to spend an evening having informed and intelligent discussion”.

 

Rejecting evil at the bandstand

Steve led us today, continuing the Lenten theme with musings on evil, looking at the temptations of Christ in the wilderness. He spoke of the passages of Scripture which personify Satan and the alternative Augustinian approach in which evil is merely the absence of good. Both have potential weaknesses – of either off-loading responsibility for our actions onto the devil (and the C of E has recognised issues too of how few people truly believe in this depiction of Satan, with it editing out ‘the devil’ from the vows taken in the baptismal service) or demeaning the horrors of true evil.

He also defined fallen-ness as choosing what others choose for us as opposed to  what God intends us to be – the very temptation Jesus faced at the start of his ministry.

So at the start of Lent, we made a bid to reject “the Devil and all rebellion against God.”

We wrote on paper, words that the “world” presents to us of ultimate worth. The idols of our age. Here are some that we came up with The world's values

The we wrote that which God would have us be. The values, goals, things of ultimate worth. Here are some

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We all had a bit of fun stamping on all that is evil, though held up as good before surrounding the values of the kingdom. Gathered there, we prayed by name for all those who need those values now, before turning to bread and wine, using these words:

Source of all Goodness and Light – our Father-Mother:

We confess our predilection and fascination with the less than good. Our chasing after our comforts and what would please us, our turning away from the true light, our obeisance to others and not to you, our idolising of the created order and our  neglect-ful-ness of our Creator.

We reject the darkness and turn to the LIGHT.

In our awakening to your gift of life to us, the breath you have YHWH-ed through us, the redemption price delivered in Jesus, we give you our thanks and our worship.

Help us we pray to orientate ourselves to you. Help us support each other in that repented direction. Help us to keep on keeping on in our journey to the LIGHT.

This bread represents your solidarity with us, your self-giving in Jesus, your incarnated commitment to our complete Shalom. We consume it for our corporate, bodily and total sustenance and with thanks!

RESPONSE: God’s mercy freely given!

This wine represents your inauguration of new relationship, the opening of new possibilities, the promise of a future resurrected life. We consume it for our corporate, bodily and total sustenance until Jesus returns!

RESPONSE: God’s mercy freely given!

Send us out, missioned together, to be children of the Kingdom, seeking Justice, loving Mercy and walking humbly with our Creator God.

RESPONSE: AMEN!

Ash Wednesday

Ash Wednesday

As usual we gathered at Holly House to mark the beginning of Lent.

We chatted over issues arising from Chapter 23 of our book – we all seemed to fall under the Pharisee banner than that of the multitudes!

We drew names from hats to match us up with prayer partners and took time to share briefly with one another in our pairs and then we had a short reflective prayer time, influenced by websites of Wellsprings and Faith and Worship. This is what we did:

Opening prayer:

Into your presence we come, Lord a few moments of quietness in a busy world that demands our attention. Breathe on us now that we might know your presence and your power as we pray, side by side, in solidarity with one another, and acknowledge our failings and need for God’s mercy an forgiveness for the journey ahead.

Readings: From the Message – Rev 2:2-3 & 3:15-17 followed by silent reflection

Confession:

I confess that I have forgotten the great love that my God and Creator has for me. I have lived as if I created myself; Forgetful of God’s great goodness to me; Forgetful that I am God’ beloved. I have embraced the feast and neglected the fast. I have lived as if there were no God and have chosen to ignore his call. I have allowed my first love to become luke-warm .

Reading: From the Message – Joel 2:12-20

Then ThirdSpace’s version of the Lord’s Prayer  (see previous blogs)

We then made the sign of the cross on each others’ foreheads or hands with the ashes naming each in turn and praying: Know yourself beloved of God. Receive his forgiveness and strength for the journey ahead.      

We shared bread and wine with these words:

We share a traditional Lenten bread, the pretzel, which is shaped in the form of arms crossed in prayer. It reminds us that we are called to stay prayerful but to draw strength from Jesus our companion on the journey.

JESUS OUR COMPANION IN PRAYER

We share in wine, the symbol of suffering, a reminder of Jesus in Gethsemane asking that his cup of suffering might be removed from him. We choose to drink, trusting in his strengthening, provision and victory as we embark on this next stage of our own journey.

JESUS OUR STRENGTH

We finished with the circular blessing – which is basically a group hug! – giving each other strength and support for these forty days and nights…

STRENGTH AND SUPPORT

 

 

Preparing for Lent

Last Sunday Paul and Fi led us in a preparation for Lent. So this is what we are doing:

  • We are supporting the 40 for 40 Trussell Trust campaign – 40p each day from each home for 40 days of Lent to support the huge numbers of families and individuals needing the help of food banks this Easter.
  • We are using these words: Lent: serious, intentional, reflective.

We have chosen to fast

Not with ashes but with actions

Not with sackcloth but in sharing

Not in thoughts but in deeds.

We remember your resurrection promise

Of a new world breaking into ours

And we remember that you are over all,

around all and in all

Amen.

 (www.godspace.wordpress.com)

 

  • We are using this reflection:

Fast from discontent                              Feast on gratitude

Fast from worry                                       Feast on Good’s providence

Fast from complaining                           Feast on appreciation

Fast from consumerism                         Feast on generosity

Fast from unrelenting pressure            Feast on ‘all will be well’

Fast from self-concern                           Feast on compassion for others

 

Fast from evasion                                    Feast on openness

Fast from avoidance                               Feast on participation

Fast from cynicism                                 Feast on hope and truth

Fast from problems that overwhelm  Feast on prayer that sustains

 

This is adapted from something written by William Arthur Ward. We always use a version of this at this time of year in ThirdSpace. I personally use a couplet each day to focus on – it’s very challenging!! Join me?

Soup & Miracles

Over steaming bowls of soup, served with bread and cheese we had a stimulating discussion about miracles based around Brian McLaren’s book “We Make the Road by Walking”.

 

Miracles?

Are you a believer in miracles?

Are you sceptical about miracles?

What problems do you encounter from your stand point?

McLaren talks of signs and asks if we imagine a story of one of Jesus miracles  – does it inform us or prove something else. Does it shake up our normal assumptions, inspire our imagination about the present and the future, and make it possible to see something we couldn’t see before?

Share a story of a time when you felt you experienced a miracle, or when you prayed for a miracle that never came.

Think of the story of Jesus turning water into wine at the wedding at Cana.

  • Consider the superabundance of 935 bottles of wine to the Galilean village. What might that signify?
  • What might it mean for God to save the best till last?

Meditate.  Hold in silence the image of an empty ceremonial stone container being filled with water that is transformed to wine. Hear the sound of water filling to the brim. See the water changing colour, and taste the change in flavour as it becomes wine. Hear the sound of people celebrating in the background. Sit with the words “empty”, “full” and “transformed”. See what prayer takes shape in your heart.

We shared bread and wine using the Companions liturgy.

The evening  concluded as we chatted while enjoying Fairtrade Honey Cake and mugs of Fairtrade coffee!

Keep Moving

I chose the theme of Keep Moving for Sunday morning worship for three reasons;

  • The weather forecast told of extremely cold conditions and a screaming wind straight from the Arctic. (We would need to keep moving to prevent us from getting too cold.)
  • We are studying a book called “We make the Road by Walking” by Brian McLaren.
  • We should never become complacent in our ways of doing church, we need to keep our eyes on Jesus and be guided by the Holy Spirit so we continue to be experimental and not set in our ways.

It actually turned out to be a sunny, but cold morning the wind not quite so fierce as expected. One really great thing about meeting outside is that we can use what is all around us to focus our worship.

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Keeping moving in Thanksgiving

We turn to the river

Thank you that Jesus that you refresh us with Living Water

We turn to the rising sun

Thank you for Jesus the Risen Son

Turn to the road

Thank you that you journey with us

Turn round and find the wind – welcome the wind with open arms

Thank you Holy Spirit that you dwell with us

Turn back to the river and look at the foot bridge

Thank you Jesus that you are The Way, The Truth and The Light

Turn in a direction of your choice and look at the winter scene

Thank you Lord God for the seasons of our lives, as we move on help us to keep moving on with you.

Bible Reading: Luke 3 from The Message

We read excerpts from Brian McLaren’s book from chapter 19 about the alternative baptismal cleansing that John the Baptist was offering to the Jews at the time of Jesus. It was this alternative way of thinking that Jesus signed up to when he came to John to be baptised in the River Jordan.

Keeping moving we walked to the Park Head considering while we walked:

Imagine God asking you, “What one thing would you like me to do for  you?”  As Solomon asked for wisdom hold up one request to God in silence.

At the Park Head, as the river rushed by, we read about the Baptism of Jesus.

Turning to the river we prayed for those we know who are in need, asking that they would experience being immersed in the flowing river of God’s love. We also prayed for those made homeless through war, disaster or other circumstances who would be experiencing the terrible cold of winter.

Bread and Wine

We know so well the stories of Christmas and Epiphany. The stories of Jesus birth, his visitors, his escape to Egypt. Apart from his visit to Jerusalem at the age of 12 we hear very little of his childhood, teenage years and 20s. We know that in those years Jesus increased in wisdom and that they were a preparation for his ministry after his baptism and temptations in the desert.  All his life he was moving, growing, changing, learning and preparing.

Preparing to die in our place

break breadthe broken body of Jesus

To shed his blood to redeem us

share winethe blood of redemption

Luke Chapter 3: 21, 22 “When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptised too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

 God says to you:  “You are my child, whom I dearly love. In you I find pleasure. “

 make these words your own:

“I am (my name), your child, whom you dearly love. In me you find pleasure.”

 

We make the road by walking

We make the roadSo last night we started discussing Brian McClaren’s book. We spent much of the evening debating his definition of ‘being spiritual’ as meaning ‘seeking aliveness’. We got a bit lost in it all, arguably, but it wasn’t bad to sit back and ask what it really means if we are aspiring to be ‘really alive’ or as Jesus put it to have ‘life in all its fullness’. We’ve decided to read a chapter a week and when we have an evening dedicated to it we can share anything arising from the previous chapters or that week’s.  We’re going to put a pop-up on the homepage every week to remind us where we’re at – as we’re starting at week 19 this week (His book begins in September). If you’re following us from afar, why don’t you get a copy and join us from a distance. You could post comments on your responses…

Thanks Fi for leading us and to the Gate for the real fire!

Taize meets Soulspace

So last night we hosted our first Taize service with John Phillips and music group. We had a turn-out of around 70 people from a range of Matlock and local churches along with Soulspace regulars. The evening was a great success – with a terrific combination of wonderful Taize songs combined with images on our giant screen. Our theme was ‘Open’ and readings (from The Message from Luke 2:1-35 and selected verses from Ephesians 3:1-19) seemed to speak so powerfully and vividly – I LOVE THAT PARAPHRASE! – Go on – look them up! We also included these readings which were so profound:

‘Although God never stops trying to communicate with us, God never wants to impose anything on us. Often God’s voice comes in a whisper, in a breath of silence. Remaining in silence in God’s presence, open to the Spirit, is already prayer.

It is not a matter of trying to obtain inner silence at all costs by following some method that creates a kind of emptiness within. The important thing is a childlike attitude of trust by which we allow Christ to pray within us silently, and then one day, we will discover that the depths of our being are inhabited by a Presence.’               Brother Roger

 

Epiphanies are Made for Sharing . . . . . . . . . Father Thomas Rosica, CSB                                                                         Solemnity of the Epiphany, Year A, Dec. 25, 201

“The word ‘epiphany’ means ‘to show forth.’ Epiphanies, both large and small, tend to be private events – yet events with great significance for the public. Trying to share the details with another of an epiphany is fraught with complications. The words are never quite right, and even the most sympathetic listener cannot fully bridge the gap between description and what is was like being there. Most of us keep our personal experiences of the Holy to ourselves. Who would believe it? And who would really understand? The irony is that epiphanies are made for sharing, even as they are impossible to communicate fully.…      “Unlike the poor shepherds, the Magi had to travel a long road; they had to face adversity to reach their goal. It was anything but a romantic, sentimental pilgrimage that we often see in our manger scenes!…      “The experience of the magi reminds us that all who make the tedious journey to the truth will finally encounter it and be changed in the process. They can never go back to a ‘business as usual’ way of life. When we meet Christ and see who he really is, we will never be the same – and only then can we hope to begin to share in his mission.…”

Have a think on that!

Prayers with images attached led to a strong sense of presence and connection and our service ended with John’s fantastic solo over Laudate Dominum – quite stunning!

Thanks to all who came and for the many special and important conversations over wine, hot drinks and home-baking. It was good to see you and we hope you’ll find us again!

Book plug / swap

Only at ThirdSpace could you get such an eclectic range of books on offer! Thanks everyone for such a good evening – for passionate promoting – and the not so passionate (did two of us really bring books with the proviso ‘I can’t really recommend this…’?!!) So here are our recommendations – mostly loved bboks, with a couple of challenging reads!

At the Loch on the Green Corrie – Andrew Craig. Poetic, touching, thought-provoking…

This fragile tent – blog – where it was found recommended and offers a great read in itself.

23 things they didn’t tell you about Capitalism – Ha-Joon Chang. Not easy – but interesting!

A man called Ove – Fredrik Backman. Quirky, Swedish humour about a grumpy old man. Fun!

The labyrinth of Osiris – Paul Sussman. Complex drama set in Jerusalem and Luxor. Compelling!

Do no harm. Stories of life, death and brain surgery – Henry Marsh. Moving and inspiring…

Flatland – Edwin A Abbott. Quirky, funny, brilliant novel set in 2 dimensions. Plato would love it!

Rock the shack – the architecture of cabins, cocoons and hideouts. A coffee table book. Beautiful.

Head on – Ian Botham’s autobiography. Amusing and insightful.

The hen who dreamed she could fly – Sun-Mi Hwang. Touching, unusual… the tale of ‘Sprout’.

From wild man to wise man – Richard Rohr. We love Richard – but is defining what men are helpful?

 

Join us in enjoying feeding mind and soul… We’re all starting to read bits of Brian McClaren’s We make the road by walking. We’ll post how we get on with that in due course